You will have all heard it by now.
Yesterday, after pressure from Liverpool and the Premier League, the PGMOL released the audios and visuals from the disallowed Luis Diaz offside goal â and you cannot turn on the radio or open social media without hearing somebody elseâs opinion on it.
đ¨đ¨| BREAKING: Hereâs the full VAR audio for Luis Diazâs disallowed goal against Tottenham Hotspur. pic.twitter.com/KDaq4FAT3f
â CentreGoals. (@centregoals) October 3, 2023
What a shit-show, eh? To think, this is where weâve got to after 150 years of football evolution. This is the best system weâve come up with.
Itâs nonsensical. How does three men anxiously shouting at each other and ignoring what their colleagues have just said create an atmosphere where logical decisions are made? You can hear the tension in their voice. You can hear the reluctance in Darren Englandâs âI canât do anything,â when he absolutely could have done something and told referee Simon Hooper to stop the game.
As a Liverpool fan, itâs still frustrating me four days later and will likely continue to do so for years to come. After all, we donât know whatâs going to happen this season. If weâre in a title race, it could well be the defining moment. Just imagine.
When Pep Guardiola is championing Liverpoolâs argument, weâre probably in the right.
âI understand completely how upset Liverpool must be in that case,â he said.
âEveryone knows they made a mistake and Liverpool suffered the big consequence of that. In this type of game, it is so important. But, no worries, the consequences will be on the players and the managers.â
What really makes me angry about this whole thing is not actually the incompetence of the officials on that day, though. I genuinely donât think they did it on purpose and froze after making such a calamitous error. Itâs not corruption. Itâs people being very bad at their job. Thereâs a small part of me that feels sorry for them, given the backlash.
The thing that has riled me most is the reaction from the football universe to the fact Liverpool tried to do something about it. And this isnât just from fans of rival clubs on the internet; itâs from respected, normally coherent journalists. It has baffled me.
Letâs take this chronologically, to show you where Iâm at. The incident happened and literally everyone said it was horrendous and that Liverpool have been stitched up. Everyone said there is something categorically and functionally wrong with VAR and footballâs use of it, if that can happen in a Premier League match.
Fine. Weâre all on the same page. We all want something to change. Itâs not a Liverpool issue â although weâre bore the brunt of it on this occasion â itâs a football issue.
Liverpool agreed and released the following statement:Â
âWe fully accept the pressures that match officials work under but these pressures are supposed to be alleviated, not exacerbated, by the existence and implementation of VAR.
âIt is therefore unsatisfactory that sufficient time was not afforded to allow the correct decision to be made and that there was no subsequent intervention.
âThat such failings have already been categorised as âsignificant human errorâ is also unacceptable. Any and all outcomes should be established only by the review and with full transparency.
âThis is vital for the reliability of future decision-making as it applies to all clubs with learnings being used to make improvements to processes in order to ensure this kind of situation cannot occur again.
âIn the meantime, we will explore the range of options available, given the clear need for escalation and resolution.â
Iâve read this again and again and I honestly think it is completely reasonable. We need change. This statement applies pressure on the PGMOL to implement change.
Good, right? Thatâs what everyone wanted.
Apparently not. What followed was two to three days of utter, tribal rubbish from the same people who said the incident proved the system is inept.
There are literally millions of tweets that entirely miss the point, but hereâs a select few.
replay spurs v liverpool. replay the 2005 champions league semi final. replay france v ireland. replay the beachball game. replay the entire 1978 world cup. actually on reflection letâs just start the whole sport again
â Jonathan Liew (@jonathanliew) October 1, 2023
They should replay that game with the beachball goal
â Barney Ronay (@barneyronay) October 2, 2023
Where in Liverpoolâs statement does it suggest the club want a replay?
Nobody wants a replay. I donât want a replay. It would tarnish any success we had this season if the game was replayed. So, these sarcastic straw-man arguments from Guardian journalists are completely unhelpful and simply poke at the embers of a âLiverpool versus everyone elseâ fire. Thatâs not what this is.
Hereâs BBC Sportâs Tim Vickery acquainting an administrative VAR error that failed to award the Liverpool goal against Spurs to a contentious handball from years back.
How can a journalist not know the difference between a subjective and an objective decision?
silly statement from Liverpool
what options do they want to explore? Does this include replaying the final of the 2019 Champions League because of the wrongly awarded hand ball penalty at the start of the game?â Tim Vickery (@Tim_Vickery) October 1, 2023
The Liverpool error is like the scoreboard in the game accidentally malfunctioned and said it was 2-1 rather than 2-2, and everyone just went, âAh, thatâs a mistake, but nothing we can do now! Look, itâs up there already!âÂ
Itâs not the same as a dodgy handball.
Then you started to get the predictably stupid stuff from former pros, who went with the, âYeah but what about that time Liverpool got a bad decision in their favour?!â nonsense.
So Liverpool FC are going to explore all options open to them after the decision yesterday, presumably they are going to explore all bad decisions that have gone in their favour too or is it only them that have had a bad decision. Very poor I must say.
â Micky Hazard (@1MickyHazard) October 1, 2023
Iâve got a timeline full of Liverpool fans moaning âThe game needs to be replayedâ âSign this petitionâ ⌠just bore off.
Someone made a big error and said sorry. Itâs a mistake so move on.
Thereâs been plenty of mistakes this season with red cards, penalty decisions and goalsâŚâ Jonathan Walters (@JonWalters19) October 2, 2023
Before Liverpoolâs statement, the football world was furious at VAR for ruining their game, but as soon as Liverpool insinuated they wanted to do something about it, they changed their story.
Why? Simon Jordan on talkSPORT spoke of Liverpoolâs victim culture and explained our reaction to the injustice as a result of this inherent trait. Yep. He said those words.
Canât they see that this isnât about Liverpool? If your club was hard done by last season and you didnât say anything, you should have. You should have rallied around each other as a club and applied pressure. This invokes change.
FSG wouldnât have have lowered ticket prices if Anfield hadnât walked out back in 2015. The government would never have issued an apology for the failings at Hillsbrough had we not pushed for one. Liverpool fans are good at standing up for what they believe in and making things happen. Football would be better if everyone did it. Weâre more alike that weâre different.
Whataboutery is the least helpful thing in football.
Like when people who supported the Qatar World Cup said, âWell, it was illegal to be gay in England in 1966, soâŚâÂ
Yeah, and this was a terrible thing. So people spoke out, protested and implemented change for the better. Now itâs not illegal to be gay in this country. Thatâs good. Canât they see this is how things get done? YOU SPEAK UP.
The situation reminds me of when people get angry at nurses and doctors on strike, and go, âHang on! She already earns more than me!â
So maybe youâre not paid enough either. Do something about it. Support each other. Speak up against systems that keep you subservient, quiet and skint.
Liverpoolâs noise made the PGMOL release the audio. This is a start. This has showed people how confusing awkward and crude the VAR system is.
Shall we maybe get it sorted then rather than farting about the topic and approaching everything with a canât-do attitude?
Much sympathy for Liverpool on those calls yesterday but you canât âescalate and resolveâ a refs cock-up. https://t.co/qEIieivuv5
â Adam Crafton (@AdamCrafton_) October 1, 2023
And to Adam Crafton, Iâd say, âYes. Yes you can.â
Incredible that people are still getting offended on behalf of self proclaimed superiors that you canât point out somethings not working & can be improved going forward. Canât quite work out if the backlash is fear of upsetting the relevant establishment or bigotry because of who it is pointing out things can be improved for the betterment of all, again, while the rest just complain to each other then leave it well alone because thatâll show them eh. If the same thing happened to your club last season, last game, do something so it improves, just accepting it happens clearly isnât working is it?
What about the lineman on field, why raise the flag, in such clear situation he had an excellent angle to see.
What about the penalty on Gomez?
What about stopping the game in a great opportunity for a goal, Selah stole the ball from Romero?
What about the first yellow for Robertson and Jota?
There were too many one-sided mistakes by VAR and the referees on the field
Strange one this one! Liverpool only vehemently complains when they are at the wrong end of decisions.
There were a period between 2018-2021 when VAR decisions always seemed to benefit them hence it being dubbed LIVARPOOL.
No sympathy from me @ all.
Only if you ignore statistics for those years. All analysis done shows this is confirmation bias from rival fans. We lost more points than gained from VAR decisions
We dont need you sympathy and people knownthe truth VAR has had to rectify reallt bad decisions but nowbtheyvsimpky refusing to do so. Without VAR there would be so many bad calls against Liverpool not being rectified. We have been robbed of at least two Premier League titles. I do not recall other clubs having two apologies inside the first 8 games so please piss off.
So we benefited by a decision being overturned (offside in each case) that was the correct decision. Hmmm
If you knew the actual facts, we are also the team most penalised by VAR since itâs introduction, which makes a mockery of you go to agenda⌠letâs not have actual facts and evidence get in the way of your bias and prejudice.
I am very happy to continue this whole conversation with hard facts, as opposed to you using childish taunts using Liverpool FCâs name. Personally you are coming across as the uneducated pundits who equally invent nonsense rather than fact.
Only dubbed LiVARpool by idiots who didn’t actually look at the data but rather looked at a couple of decisions and decided that every decision went Liverpools way. Even if the accusation was true it would be the same argument that the system doesn’t work as well as it should so it needs improving. Liverpool have at least had the guts to say something.
Are those the seasons where stats prove that Liverpool were the worst done to by VAR. only daft rival fans use the word LiVARpool. We got the least decision right by VAR during this period so look things up before spouting nonsense.
You are sprouting an opinion that is not based on facts and in this WOKE culture it seems that the people that speak the truth risk offending people i.e. you, simply because you cannot stand it when others disagree with you. This is not about LFC, this is about incompetent officials ruining the game for EVERYONE and then so-called journalists who are supposed to be unbiased, having a go at LFC because they do not want to go against the establishment. For evil to triumph it just needs good men to do NOTHING, and that is what you want.
get a brain & go check the actual facts – between var being brought in & 20/21 season , liverpool were one of the teams to benefit from var decisions the least in the prem , liverpool would have won another league if var hadnt been in , on the season they got 97 points
I’m a LFC supporter but changes are required that benefit all clubs . Consistency is also a major problem.